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That, or a 'matrioska chair' xD

VirtuousGod escreveu:

That, or a 'matrioska chair' xD

Hahaha, bem lembrado!

Jovens deixo aqui um apelo/máxima para as próximas eleições:

EU NÃO VOTO EM CARAS; VOTO EM IDEIAS QUE PODEM MELHORAR O PAÍS!!

Muito importante: LEIAM OS PROGRAMAS ELEITORAIS DE CADA PARTIDO; SÓ ASSIM FAREMOS UM VOTO CONSCIENTE!

(Pelo menos, será um voto que se aproximará da consciência de cada um).

Isso devia ser a máxima para todas as eleições.


Infelizmente há dois grandes problemas:

- primeiro, para além de serem imensos partidos (em alguns círculos são 16 ou até 17), os programas de alguns são enormes. Ler tudo torna-se cansativo e mesmo impossível para muita gente, que básica e compreensivelmente, "tem mais que fazer". Para isto a campanha eleitoral deveria passar pela explicação do que consistem os programas, partindo-se do princípio de que as pessoas não o leram ou poderão ter dúvidas sobre os mesmos. Isto parece-me ser o que alguns dos partidos mais pequenos ainda fazem. Claramente, é provocado pela sua dificuldade de fazer passar a mensagem, pelo que tentam aproveitar todas as oportunidades para fazer chegar a mensagem;

- segundo, o que está nos programas não é respeitado depois eleitos. As condições alteraram-se, os que cá estavam antes deixaram isto muito pior do que nos diziam, enfim, o típico. Quanto a isto, a meu ver a solução passaria por o eleitorado ser muito mais exigente perante a classe política e não se reduzir ao tradicional encolher de ombros, dizer que todos são iguais e nas eleições seguintes voltar a votar nos mesmos. Puni-los na hora do voto é a melhor arma das pessoas, mas ainda muito pouca gente se apercebeu disso.



Infelizmente parece que ainda estamos muito longe destas utopias.

Kraft durch Freude escreveu:

Isso devia ser a máxima para todas as eleições.


Infelizmente há dois grandes problemas:

- primeiro, para além de serem imensos partidos (em alguns círculos são 16 ou até 17), os programas de alguns são enormes. Ler tudo torna-se cansativo e mesmo impossível para muita gente, que básica e compreensivelmente, "tem mais que fazer". Para isto a campanha eleitoral deveria passar pela explicação do que consistem os programas, partindo-se do princípio de que as pessoas não o leram ou poderão ter dúvidas sobre os mesmos. Isto parece-me ser o que alguns dos partidos mais pequenos ainda fazem. Claramente, é provocado pela sua dificuldade de fazer passar a mensagem, pelo que tentam aproveitar todas as oportunidades para fazer chegar a mensagem;

- segundo, o que está nos programas não é respeitado depois eleitos. As condições alteraram-se, os que cá estavam antes deixaram isto muito pior do que nos diziam, enfim, o típico. Quanto a isto, a meu ver a solução passaria por o eleitorado ser muito mais exigente perante a classe política e não se reduzir ao tradicional encolher de ombros, dizer que todos são iguais e nas eleições seguintes voltar a votar nos mesmos. Puni-los na hora do voto é a melhor arma das pessoas, mas ainda muito pouca gente se apercebeu disso.



Infelizmente parece que ainda estamos muito longe destas utopias.

Subscrevo.
De facto essas eram decisões simples que podiam ser levadas a cabo... Ter duas versões, uma das propostas completas e outra das propostas simplificadas, onde os pontos principais são expressos. E sim, também concordo que geralmente são os partidos mais pequenos que têm essa preocupação.
Infelizmente os pequenos partidos têm pouco poder e mesmo coligados nem sempre conseguem uma grande percentagem de votos. Este tipo de eleições é um fail autêntico, desde os eleitores até à organização dos partidos... Infelizmente.

As massas estão tão habituadas a votar sempre nos mesmos, que têm relutância em votar em alternativas, parece-me.

Sem querer estar a fazer publicidade, mas para quem possa estar interessado: Organii
Produtos cosméticos biológicos, como, sabonetes, champôs, maquilhagem, feitos a partir de produtos biológicos certificados. No chiado, na Rua Anchieta.
www.organii.pt

Dou-te razão, Kraft! Ainda assim, lendo os programas, seria a forma mais consciente de votar... senão vamos basear-nos em quê?! (já tendo em atenção que toda a massa política fala, fala, mas não cumpre).

Pelo menos, ficamos com a consciência tranquila, bom, eu fico. Se a pessoa na qual eu votar revelar-se um fiasco, sei que numa próxima não terá o meu voto.


@Urânia - os produtos são interessantes, mas caros que até dói!

Vampiria escreveu:

Dou-te razão, Kraft! Ainda assim, lendo os programas, seria a forma mais consciente de votar... senão vamos basear-nos em quê?!

Claro. Por isso é que eu disse que

Kraft durch Freude escreveu:

Isso devia ser a máxima para todas as eleições.

Descobri um paradoxo musical: Black metal cristao (white black metal?)

http://www.lastfm.com.br/tag/christian%20black%20metal/artists

Vampiria escreveu:

@Urânia - os produtos são interessantes, mas caros que até dói!

Sim, são mais caros. Mas existe dentro de certos produtos alguma variedade de preços. Sò para ilustrar eu comprei 2 champôs: um para mim, de 6 euros e um outro para um familiar, que custou 22 euros. Mas esse é um champô de tratamento para usar por um curto periodo de tempo. Por isso não acho assim tão caro.
Estes produtos são um nicho de mercado ainda com pouca procura. Ao comprarmos, incentivamos a produção e consequentemente, a baixa dos preços.

Váli escreveu:

Descobri um paradoxo musical: Black metal cristao (white black metal?)

http://www.lastfm.com.br/tag/christian%20black%20metal/artists

Sim, isso existe. Já conhecia.

Váli escreveu:

Descobri um paradoxo musical: Black metal cristao (white black metal?)

http://www.lastfm.com.br/tag/christian%20black%20metal/artists

Unblack Metal. Old news.

É como bandas de Death Metal falarem de problemas da vida quotidiana

Váli escreveu:

Descobri um paradoxo musical: Black metal cristao (white black metal?)

http://www.lastfm.com.br/tag/christian%20black%20metal/artists

Isso existe há imenso tempo man, e há algumas bandas fixes até, só é pena esse conteúdo lírico cristão bleh.

"Date a girl who reads. Date a girl who spends her money on books instead of clothes. She has problems with closet space because she has too many books. Date a girl who has a list of books she wants to read, who has had a library card since she was twelve.

Find a girl who reads. You’ll know that she does because she will always have an unread book in her bag.She’s the one lovingly looking over the shelves in the bookstore, the one who quietly cries out when she finds the book she wants. You see the weird chick sniffing the pages of an old book in a second hand book shop? That’s the reader. They can never resist smelling the pages, especially when they are yellow.

She’s the girl reading while waiting in that coffee shop down the street. If you take a peek at her mug, the non-dairy creamer is floating on top because she’s kind of engrossed already. Lost in a world of the author’s making. Sit down. She might give you a glare, as most girls who read do not like to be interrupted. Ask her if she likes the book.

Buy her another cup of coffee.

Let her know what you really think of Murakami. See if she got through the first chapter of Fellowship. Understand that if she says she understood James Joyce’s Ulysses she’s just saying that to sound intelligent. Ask her if she loves Alice or she would like to be Alice.

It’s easy to date a girl who reads. Give her books for her birthday, for Christmas and for anniversaries. Give her the gift of words, in poetry, in song. Give her Neruda, Pound, Sexton, Cummings. Let her know that you understand that words are love. Understand that she knows the difference between books and reality but by god, she’s going to try to make her life a little like her favorite book. It will never be your fault if she does.

She has to give it a shot somehow.

Lie to her. If she understands syntax, she will understand your need to lie. Behind words are other things: motivation, value, nuance, dialogue. It will not be the end of the world.

Fail her. Because a girl who reads knows that failure always leads up to the climax. Because girls who understand that all things will come to end. That you can always write a sequel. That you can begin again and again and still be the hero. That life is meant to have a villain or two.

Why be frightened of everything that you are not? Girls who read understand that people, like characters, develop. Except in the Twilightseries.

If you find a girl who reads, keep her close. When you find her up at 2 AM clutching a book to her chest and weeping, make her a cup of tea and hold her. You may lose her for a couple of hours but she will always come back to you. She’ll talk as if the characters in the book are real, because for a while, they always are.

You will propose on a hot air balloon. Or during a rock concert. Or very casually next time she’s sick. Over Skype.

You will smile so hard you will wonder why your heart hasn’t burst and bled out all over your chest yet. You will write the story of your lives, have kids with strange names and even stranger tastes. She will introduce your children to the Cat in the Hat and Aslan, maybe in the same day. You will walk the winters of your old age together and she will recite Keats under her breath while you shake the snow off your boots.

Date a girl who reads because you deserve it. You deserve a girl who can give you the most colorful life imaginable. If you can only give her monotony, and stale hours and half-baked proposals, then you’re better off alone. If you want the world and the worlds beyond it, date a girl who reads.

Or better yet, date a girl who writes."

Rosemarie Urquico

Ártemis escreveu:

"Date a girl who reads. Date a girl who spends her money on books instead of clothes. She has problems with closet space because she has too many books. Date a girl who has a list of books she wants to read, who has had a library card since she was twelve.

Find a girl who reads. You’ll know that she does because she will always have an unread book in her bag.She’s the one lovingly looking over the shelves in the bookstore, the one who quietly cries out when she finds the book she wants. You see the weird chick sniffing the pages of an old book in a second hand book shop? That’s the reader. They can never resist smelling the pages, especially when they are yellow.

She’s the girl reading while waiting in that coffee shop down the street. If you take a peek at her mug, the non-dairy creamer is floating on top because she’s kind of engrossed already. Lost in a world of the author’s making. Sit down. She might give you a glare, as most girls who read do not like to be interrupted. Ask her if she likes the book.

Buy her another cup of coffee.

Let her know what you really think of Murakami. See if she got through the first chapter of Fellowship. Understand that if she says she understood James Joyce’s Ulysses she’s just saying that to sound intelligent. Ask her if she loves Alice or she would like to be Alice.

It’s easy to date a girl who reads. Give her books for her birthday, for Christmas and for anniversaries. Give her the gift of words, in poetry, in song. Give her Neruda, Pound, Sexton, Cummings. Let her know that you understand that words are love. Understand that she knows the difference between books and reality but by god, she’s going to try to make her life a little like her favorite book. It will never be your fault if she does.

She has to give it a shot somehow.

Lie to her. If she understands syntax, she will understand your need to lie. Behind words are other things: motivation, value, nuance, dialogue. It will not be the end of the world.

Fail her. Because a girl who reads knows that failure always leads up to the climax. Because girls who understand that all things will come to end. That you can always write a sequel. That you can begin again and again and still be the hero. That life is meant to have a villain or two.

Why be frightened of everything that you are not? Girls who read understand that people, like characters, develop. Except in the Twilightseries.

If you find a girl who reads, keep her close. When you find her up at 2 AM clutching a book to her chest and weeping, make her a cup of tea and hold her. You may lose her for a couple of hours but she will always come back to you. She’ll talk as if the characters in the book are real, because for a while, they always are.

You will propose on a hot air balloon. Or during a rock concert. Or very casually next time she’s sick. Over Skype.

You will smile so hard you will wonder why your heart hasn’t burst and bled out all over your chest yet. You will write the story of your lives, have kids with strange names and even stranger tastes. She will introduce your children to the Cat in the Hat and Aslan, maybe in the same day. You will walk the winters of your old age together and she will recite Keats under her breath while you shake the snow off your boots.

Date a girl who reads because you deserve it. You deserve a girl who can give you the most colorful life imaginable. If you can only give her monotony, and stale hours and half-baked proposals, then you’re better off alone. If you want the world and the worlds beyond it, date a girl who reads.

Or better yet, date a girl who writes."

Rosemarie Urquico

Um bocado exagerado, but yeah, my kind of girl :´)

Ártemis escreveu:

"Date a girl who reads. Date a girl who spends her money on books instead of clothes. She has problems with closet space because she has too many books. Date a girl who has a list of books she wants to read, who has had a library card since she was twelve.

Find a girl who reads. You’ll know that she does because she will always have an unread book in her bag.She’s the one lovingly looking over the shelves in the bookstore, the one who quietly cries out when she finds the book she wants. You see the weird chick sniffing the pages of an old book in a second hand book shop? That’s the reader. They can never resist smelling the pages, especially when they are yellow.

She’s the girl reading while waiting in that coffee shop down the street. If you take a peek at her mug, the non-dairy creamer is floating on top because she’s kind of engrossed already. Lost in a world of the author’s making. Sit down. She might give you a glare, as most girls who read do not like to be interrupted. Ask her if she likes the book.

Buy her another cup of coffee.

Let her know what you really think of Murakami. See if she got through the first chapter of Fellowship. Understand that if she says she understood James Joyce’s Ulysses she’s just saying that to sound intelligent. Ask her if she loves Alice or she would like to be Alice.

It’s easy to date a girl who reads. Give her books for her birthday, for Christmas and for anniversaries. Give her the gift of words, in poetry, in song. Give her Neruda, Pound, Sexton, Cummings. Let her know that you understand that words are love. Understand that she knows the difference between books and reality but by god, she’s going to try to make her life a little like her favorite book. It will never be your fault if she does.

She has to give it a shot somehow.

Lie to her. If she understands syntax, she will understand your need to lie. Behind words are other things: motivation, value, nuance, dialogue. It will not be the end of the world.

Fail her. Because a girl who reads knows that failure always leads up to the climax. Because girls who understand that all things will come to end. That you can always write a sequel. That you can begin again and again and still be the hero. That life is meant to have a villain or two.

Why be frightened of everything that you are not? Girls who read understand that people, like characters, develop. Except in the Twilightseries.

If you find a girl who reads, keep her close. When you find her up at 2 AM clutching a book to her chest and weeping, make her a cup of tea and hold her. You may lose her for a couple of hours but she will always come back to you. She’ll talk as if the characters in the book are real, because for a while, they always are.

You will propose on a hot air balloon. Or during a rock concert. Or very casually next time she’s sick. Over Skype.

You will smile so hard you will wonder why your heart hasn’t burst and bled out all over your chest yet. You will write the story of your lives, have kids with strange names and even stranger tastes. She will introduce your children to the Cat in the Hat and Aslan, maybe in the same day. You will walk the winters of your old age together and she will recite Keats under her breath while you shake the snow off your boots.

Date a girl who reads because you deserve it. You deserve a girl who can give you the most colorful life imaginable. If you can only give her monotony, and stale hours and half-baked proposals, then you’re better off alone. If you want the world and the worlds beyond it, date a girl who reads.

Or better yet, date a girl who writes."

Rosemarie Urquico

Onde é que andam escondidas?

Averróis escreveu:

Ártemis escreveu:

"Date a girl who reads. Date a girl who spends her money on books instead of clothes. She has problems with closet space because she has too many books. Date a girl who has a list of books she wants to read, who has had a library card since she was twelve.

Find a girl who reads. You’ll know that she does because she will always have an unread book in her bag.She’s the one lovingly looking over the shelves in the bookstore, the one who quietly cries out when she finds the book she wants. You see the weird chick sniffing the pages of an old book in a second hand book shop? That’s the reader. They can never resist smelling the pages, especially when they are yellow.

She’s the girl reading while waiting in that coffee shop down the street. If you take a peek at her mug, the non-dairy creamer is floating on top because she’s kind of engrossed already. Lost in a world of the author’s making. Sit down. She might give you a glare, as most girls who read do not like to be interrupted. Ask her if she likes the book.

Buy her another cup of coffee.

Let her know what you really think of Murakami. See if she got through the first chapter of Fellowship. Understand that if she says she understood James Joyce’s Ulysses she’s just saying that to sound intelligent. Ask her if she loves Alice or she would like to be Alice.

It’s easy to date a girl who reads. Give her books for her birthday, for Christmas and for anniversaries. Give her the gift of words, in poetry, in song. Give her Neruda, Pound, Sexton, Cummings. Let her know that you understand that words are love. Understand that she knows the difference between books and reality but by god, she’s going to try to make her life a little like her favorite book. It will never be your fault if she does.

She has to give it a shot somehow.

Lie to her. If she understands syntax, she will understand your need to lie. Behind words are other things: motivation, value, nuance, dialogue. It will not be the end of the world.

Fail her. Because a girl who reads knows that failure always leads up to the climax. Because girls who understand that all things will come to end. That you can always write a sequel. That you can begin again and again and still be the hero. That life is meant to have a villain or two.

Why be frightened of everything that you are not? Girls who read understand that people, like characters, develop. Except in the Twilightseries.

If you find a girl who reads, keep her close. When you find her up at 2 AM clutching a book to her chest and weeping, make her a cup of tea and hold her. You may lose her for a couple of hours but she will always come back to you. She’ll talk as if the characters in the book are real, because for a while, they always are.

You will propose on a hot air balloon. Or during a rock concert. Or very casually next time she’s sick. Over Skype.

You will smile so hard you will wonder why your heart hasn’t burst and bled out all over your chest yet. You will write the story of your lives, have kids with strange names and even stranger tastes. She will introduce your children to the Cat in the Hat and Aslan, maybe in the same day. You will walk the winters of your old age together and she will recite Keats under her breath while you shake the snow off your boots.

Date a girl who reads because you deserve it. You deserve a girl who can give you the most colorful life imaginable. If you can only give her monotony, and stale hours and half-baked proposals, then you’re better off alone. If you want the world and the worlds beyond it, date a girl who reads.

Or better yet, date a girl who writes."

Rosemarie Urquico

Onde é que andam escondidas?

Bibliotecas, livrarias... Obviously!

Elas andem aí...

Basta olhar para toda a gente e não apenas para as decotadas

Descobri uma radio que passa punk e algumas cenas de metal a best rock fm - 101.2 (nao tenho a certeza quanto ao posto mas acho que e este)

Passei ontem a tarde a ouvir isto

"Give her Cummings".

É só de mim ou hoje o fórum tá bué lento e estranho?

Está estranho, está. Está sempre a fazer log out, tenho que andar sempre a fazer log in.
Lento acho que não. Lenta está a minha internet, mas o problema transcende o fórum

Nuno escreveu:

Está estranho, está. Está sempre a fazer log out, tenho que andar sempre a fazer log in.
Lento acho que não. Lenta está a minha internet, mas o problema transcende o fórum

No meu pc agora a velocidade já está normal... Mas há comandos dos menus que aparecem desformatados e sem imagens.

Nuno escreveu:

Está estranho, está. Está sempre a fazer log out, tenho que andar sempre a fazer log in.
Lento acho que não. Lenta está a minha internet, mas o problema transcende o fórum

Eu tenho o mesmo problema com o log out, de resto não notei nada.